Discussion:
The best mainframe books = J. Ranade IBM Series
"Fish" (David B. Trout)
2010-05-28 15:36:45 UTC
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I've personally always felt pretty much ANY of the "J. Ranade IBM Series" of
books to be the very best mainframe books around on just about any mainframe
subject:

http://tinyurl.com/2vfwjvm

If you don't like Amazon[*] then just use your favorite book store's search
engine to search for "J. Ranade IBM Series".

A lot of them are hard to find these days, but they're worth the effort to
find them (and the money to buy them) in my opinion.

There are other better books on the subject of mainframe assembler
programming perhaps (see my original post; it looks like Mike Muroch's book
(http://www.murach.com/books/mbal/index.htm) has received several votes),
but for general overall mainframe stuff, you just can't beat the J. Ranade
IBM Series IMO.
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"Fish" (David B. Trout)
fish-VLFb7ALKWJGGw+***@public.gmane.org

[*] I'm not trying to promote Amazon.com. It's just a popular/common place
where you can see/buy books, that's all. My wife prefers Half Price Books
and Barnes & Noble. As for me I'm pretty much neutral on the subject.
Anywhere I can buy a quality book for cheap.
yvette hirth
2010-05-28 15:54:04 UTC
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Post by "Fish" (David B. Trout)
I've personally always felt pretty much ANY of the "J. Ranade IBM Series" of
books to be the very best mainframe books around on just about any mainframe
http://tinyurl.com/2vfwjvm
If you don't like Amazon[*] then just use your favorite book store's search
engine to search for "J. Ranade IBM Series".
A lot of them are hard to find these days, but they're worth the effort to
find them (and the money to buy them) in my opinion.
There are other better books on the subject of mainframe assembler
programming perhaps (see my original post; it looks like Mike Muroch's book
(http://www.murach.com/books/mbal/index.htm) has received several votes),
but for general overall mainframe stuff, you just can't beat the J. Ranade
IBM Series IMO.
or you can try O'Reilly (http://www.safaribooksonline.com), which has
lots of z/OS / MVS books. sadly, a cursory search didn't turn up any
370/390 assembler books, but a more thorough search might... plenty of
x86 assembler stuff, tho...

yvette hirth
Ron Hudson
2010-05-28 16:04:43 UTC
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Thanks eveyone for all the book reccomendations.. I will have to see if I
can find any of these in my local library,

I can't justify spending the 30-50 bucks for one of these books when this is
currently just a hobby and I am currently
not working. I would love to have a 'mainframe' job (well perhaps not
tape-ape or printer monkey) and then be able
to justify this sort of cost.

Right now I am working on a BS-Information systems security at ITT-Technical
Institute. If you know anyone
with a mainframe in Sacramento CA that is hiring, I have a resume for them.

I occasionally find some web resources.. many assume a greater knowlege of
the system than I have.

I am currently looking for
- more on the OS - Program linkage
- File and Printer I/O in assembly language

Ron.
scott
2010-05-28 17:00:04 UTC
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Post by Ron Hudson
Thanks eveyone for all the book reccomendations.. I will have to see
if I can find any of these in my local library,
I can't justify spending the 30-50 bucks for one of these books when
this is currently just a hobby and I am currently
not working. I would love to have a 'mainframe' job (well perhaps not
tape-ape or printer monkey) and then be able
to justify this sort of cost.
Right now I am working on a BS-Information systems security at
ITT-Technical Institute. If you know anyone
with a mainframe in Sacramento CA that is hiring, I have a resume for them.
I occasionally find some web resources.. many assume a greater
knowlege of the system than I have.
I am currently looking for
- more on the OS - Program linkage
- File and Printer I/O in assembly language
Ron.
While I know they will put you to sleep, look at the manuals that
are available on IBM's website. Also look at the IBM redbook series
which are even better. At both of the places you will find
information that is the latest as well as some that have a few years
on them.
Dave Wade
2010-05-28 17:47:33 UTC
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There is an Assembler list at http://www.listserv.uga.edu/ "ASSEMBLER-***@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU"
Also a Yahoo group http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/hercules-s370asm/
Also stuff from the java based emulator

http://www.automatedsoftwaretools.com/demos/index.html

http://www.z390.org/

and finally a firly good reference

http://www.simotime.com/indexasm.htm

Hope these help,
Dave

P.S. you should pick up an older edition of Struble from Amazon for under $10 including p&p so long as you in mainstream WestPondia...
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On 05/28/2010 12:04 PM, Ron Hudson wrote:


Thanks eveyone for all the book reccomendations.. I will have to see if I can find any of these in my local library,

I can't justify spending the 30-50 bucks for one of these books when this is currently just a hobby and I am currently
not working. I would love to have a 'mainframe' job (well perhaps not tape-ape or printer monkey) and then be able
to justify this sort of cost.

Right now I am working on a BS-Information systems security at ITT-Technical Institute. If you know anyone
with a mainframe in Sacramento CA that is hiring, I have a resume for them.

I occasionally find some web resources.. many assume a greater knowlege of the system than I have.

I am currently looking for
- more on the OS - Program linkage
- File and Printer I/O in assembly language

Ron.
gary_lee_phillips
2010-05-29 10:46:27 UTC
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Ron, I have to concur with those who are suggesting books. The questions you are asking really beg for a step by step walk through of the basics of program linkage, including the reasons for it, followed by the conventions of OS assembler language and I/O.

Follow this link for Kevin McQuillen's System/360-370 assembler language (OS) at a very reasonable price ($3.64 postpaid.) You can't beat that. Remember that to work with MVS 3.8 and Hercules you do not need the very latest z/OS texts that cost $50 apiece or more, but only something from the era in which MVS was the state of the art. The concepts will still be good today, but an old book is cheaper.

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=mcquillen&kn=murach&sts=t&tn=assembler&x=0&y=0
Post by Dave Wade
----- Original Message -----
Thanks eveyone for all the book reccomendations.. I will have to see if I can find any of these in my local library,
I can't justify spending the 30-50 bucks for one of these books when this is currently just a hobby and I am currently
not working. I would love to have a 'mainframe' job (well perhaps not tape-ape or printer monkey) and then be able
to justify this sort of cost.
Right now I am working on a BS-Information systems security at ITT-Technical Institute. If you know anyone
with a mainframe in Sacramento CA that is hiring, I have a resume for them.
I occasionally find some web resources.. many assume a greater knowlege of the system than I have.
I am currently looking for
- more on the OS - Program linkage
- File and Printer I/O in assembly language
Ron.
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